Nicolle Wallace reveals why Trump is ‘secretly afraid’ of Kamala Harris


President Donald Trump likes to dismiss polls and judge popularity by crowd size – to the point of inflating his own numbers. And that, said MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace, may be why the Democratic candidate he fears most isn’t former Vice President Joe Biden

It’s Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who kicked off her campaign earlier this year in front of a massive crowd of 20,000 people in Oakland. 

“Her crowds spooked him,” Wallace said.  

“In Trump’s mind, that’s the measure, that’s the poll,” Axios reporter Jonathan Swan said on “Deadline: White House.” “Crowds don’t lie.”

San Francisco’s new district attorney, Kamala Harris, right, receives the oath of office from California Supreme Court Chief Justice Ronald M. George, left, during inauguration ceremonies Thursday, Jan. 8, 2004, in San Francisco. In the center is Harris’ mother, Dr. Shyamala Gopalan, who holds a copy of “The Bill of Rights.” Harris, a political novice and career prosecutor, became San Francisco’s chief law enforcer Thursday and California’s first district attorney of Indian and black descent. (AP Photo/George Nikitin)

California Attorney General Kamala Harris, who as a prosecutor once specialized in child sexual assault cases addresses the Domestic Human Trafficking symposium in Los Angeles, Friday, April, 25, 2014. According to a 2005 International Labour Organization paper, human trafficking, or sexual servitude and forced labor, brings in about $32 billion annually, making it the second most profitable criminal enterprise after illegal arms trafficking. The vast majority of those trafficked are women and children, from all milieus of society. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes)

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The show’s panel also discussed a New York Times report that said Harris was rebooting her campaign with more direct attacks on the president. Times reporter Annie Karni said that while Trump had labeled Biden as “Sleepy Joe” and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) as “Crazy Bernie,” he hadn’t said a whole lot about Harris. 

“She is notably one candidate in the wide field that he doesn’t seem to know how to take on,” Karni said. 

Reminded that Trump had once called her a “nasty wit,” Karni said the insult was “almost like a compliment.” 

  • This article originally appeared on HuffPost.

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